I pray God does a work in Dave’s heart too. I am so sorry that Dave Ramsey and team ( I have just unsubscribed from his youtube channel) felt a book tour (money) was more important than your marriage and healing from the hurt that has come from the affairs ( or just one affair) whichever its hurtful. ?Your picture (blood on the hands) is so correct. I’ve detailed only a small part of my story at the hands of Dave Ramsey, the board of Ramsey Solutions, and my ex-husband Chris Hogan. Hogan, also an author, is divorced from former wife Melissa and has admitted to having several affairs, including with a Ramsey employee, according to Religion News Service. Lord this situation belongs in your hands. They cross so many boundaries that a job should never cross, and they slap on a facade of “we’re just trying to help you.”. I hope at least some of the Ramsey Solutions employees in the audience thought “Whoa! I unsubscribed from his podcast and just added a whole bunch of others. You can now pre-order my new book, “Afraid of the Doctor: Every Parent’s Guide to Preventing and Managing Medical Trauma,” co-authored with Dr. Meghan Marsac. They expected our church elders to REPORT TO THEM. Not just to oppose gossip, but to oppose gossip like THEY do. I always figured Dave was a jerk, but not to this extent. The handling of this very personal situation in your marriage, is the exact reason that so many injured spouses are afraid to speak up and seek help. However, even assuming it’s not crossing legal boundaries making it to the spousal interview, issues remain: This is clear by the anecdote that Dave Ramsey gives in his book about a spouse who refused to participate in the spousal interview. While Hogan did not elaborate on what personal issues led to his departure, his ex-wife, Melissa Hogan, wrote about what she called “painful personal events” that led to their divorce in 2019. My thoughts are with you and your family. The ramsey team isn’t disputing that she was fired purely because she had premarital sex. Hurting people hurt people, I pray that the Lord Jesus Christ heals your mind, body, soul and your spirit. And when I give you money to operate inside this organization and then you tear this very organization down, that makes you a thief.”. No apology, no changed behavior, no accountability. It could be that they are worried about losing their jobs if they were to speak ill of their employer to you. Thank you so much for being so brave. Those filings made clear that the way Ramsey Solutions handled my ex-husband’s immoral conduct would be a central issue. Thank you for your prayers. Appreciate how you have taken the high road and done what is best and sorry for the pain you have had over this. https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../chris-hogan-melissa-hogan-ramsey-solutions I feel so bad for his ex and their kids. I’m so sorry for everything you’ve gone through, Melissa. I acknowledge that is a difficult path for an employer and I don’t wish RS or my ex-husband ill will. Chris is a financial guru, who writes books and works with Dave Ramsey. Prayers are definitely appreciated. Dave Ramsey is an evangelical Christian, and he runs his company with a set of standards that align with his religious ethics. Is such documentation available publicly? The refusal to take responsibly for their actions should be no surprise considering the email response to the RNS reporter Bob Smietana and the audio above where Dave Ramsey essentially declared it un-Christian for the many sexual/spiritual abuse victims of predator pastor Bill Hybels to tell the truth publicly about what he had done to them. Dave also asked two of his colleagues to work with the pastor and elders at the church the Hogans attended to get reports on the couple. I pray you have a great support group and an apology from Dave Ramsey personally…Not everybody can handle power…they forget who they are….Anyway you need to take “pen to paper” and write about your experience…as other women have …It will be sure to minister to others going through the same thing but who may have alot less support. Update on My Statement re: Ramsey Solutions | Melissa J. Hogan The devil is liar and he hates the establishment of marriage between a man and a woman. I don’t purport to understand their thinking, but I know God’s calling is higher than man’s. Divorce is hard enough without the extra crap you had to deal with. I pray that Dave Ramsey and those working under his leadership and authority will do more than take note, but truly repent AND turn. There is more than enough that is now public to call this behavior what it is – evil and nothing like Jesus. I note that while his statement generically expresses being sorry for harm, he does not take responsibility for the impact of his actions on his family, people who trusted him, or people whose jobs depended on his role and integrity. My request is made with all due respect as to the incredibly delicate nature of this case and all involved. Reading Now:Update on My Statement re: Ramsey Solutions. You see Dave didn’t fire him because he was going to spin the narrative to sell books (on restoring marriages). If they do, they just might be a cult. Dave has done well of sharing his past mistakes to the benefit of millions of other people and I hope this situation can be no exception to that. We have too many walking wounded Christians here that were wounded by other Christians inside and outside the church. Hogan challenges and equips people to take control of their money and reach their financial goals, using I have read that Ramsey Solutions gives you a second chance after you screw up to make things right and walk closer with the Lord but the second time gets you fired. Lord, your word says that we should proclaim that we are strong in our weakness. Does he tell the company about every employee’s divorce? I also hope that the “team” at Ramsey Solutions can prayerfully repent of the harm that they have done to others. I have been following you for years thanks in part to your ex husband. … Hogan, author of “Everyday Millionaire,” hosted his own popular radio show on Ramsey’s platform as well as appearing as a frequent guest host on Dave Ramsey’s program. This is so hard to hear and makes me sad for the dozen or so RS employees who go to my church. Chris is an inspiration to many, but even the best of the best have to watch because Satan is laying wait to bring them down. The mental health authority. The truth always wins, whether you’re a participant in it or not. It is a similar hope that my ex-husband can do the same, for the benefit of himself and others. He indeed fired two employees recently when spouses said fairly innocuous things (on a private FB thread and at a private dinner party) about COVID-19 and the wisdom of Ramsey Solutions’ response to it. Wow, wow and just wow. Marriage may have ended, but you will always share the boys. I’m thankful that, while I’m no longer subscribed to anything connected to them, I’ve at least found you to replace them with. I take my sadness and trauma to the Lord every single day. First, this is treating adults like children. You are a class act and I wish you peace as you walk this very difficult journey. Maybe a zero tolerance policy would work better for the company. He characterizes such healthy boundaries as “crazy.”, Dave Ramsey also notes in EntreLeadership that they require prospective employees to submit their personal family budget as part of the hiring process, “to make sure that they could live on what we were paying for that position.”. Thank you for your prayers. God is with you and is near to the broken-hearted. Subscribe to receive updates about the book! If so, where would I find it? There’s a reason it was so easy for me to overlook a violation of my privacy. Better that we realize that the world and people are complex and that sadly, sometimes people can be helpful to some at the same time they are incredibly harmful to others, which makes transparency and accountability all the more important. While I worked there I thought it was great for the most part. Lord. Thank you for your words. I’m praying for Chris too. Small at first, no big deal, you want the job. Melissa Hogan said she agreed with the plan at first but then became concerned at the level of control that Ramsey’s leadership wanted. Maybe so they’d dismiss any information they heard? 2/26-27: Alabama Rare, Rare Disease Day Symposium (virtual), 3/19-20: Project Alive Hunter Syndrome Community Conference (virtual). So does the validation from heartbreakingly similar stories that flood my inbox from ex-employees and their spouses. No, I have not received any kind of apology from Dave Ramsey or anyone in leadership at Ramsey Solutions for these actions, much less for the controlling and abusive behavior that I describe in my statement and otherwise occurred. Stay strong for your beautiful children. I’m surprised that those wrongfully fired from Ramsey hasn’t sued for wrongful termination. From here forth, I trust ( through working the steps ) that the 7 step plan works well. Part of our current Christian state of affairs is the “bro” culture where all the pastors buddy up and try to prevent the sin of a buddy to be revealed, and when revealed, to talk about counseling and restoration. Because unhealthy boundary violations are part of the company’s fabric and they train you to accept it from the moment you start interviewing. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (RNS) — The company owned by Christian financial guru and radio show host Dave Ramsey has lost one of its best-known personalities. This is both paternalistic and potentially legally problematic. The email response to Bob Smietana gave me little hope in that, as God reminds us to watch the fruit, not the fruit of organizations – which don’t receive salvation, but the fruit of repentance or otherwise of individuals, each of whom are accountable to Him. oh friend. And that’s really the heart of this matter is hearts. Thank you Joni. A familiar presence at Ramsey Solutions events, Hogan was featured in a “Reset” event that Ramsey Solutions livestreamed from Life.Church, one of the largest congregations in the United States. yes, we all do. My hope has always been for repentance as well. Those of us who have lived here for 15+ years know this local Christian drill. Do you have personal knowledge of what transpired during her 4 year employment? I have been following Dave Ramsey for about a year now. It’s like a frog in a pot. BOOK CHRIS: http://www.daveramsey.com/speakers/Chris-Hogan Chris Hogan stirs audiences to action wherever he speaks. He also does not acknowledge the role that Ramsey Solutions and Dave Ramsey himself played in harming and manipulating me, as well as covering up his actions. After defending three abusive pastors (Bill Hybels, Mark Driscoll, and Perry Noble) and a neighborhood arsonist, maligning sexual abuse victims and suggesting that coming forward about an abuser is un-Biblical, he turns to my marriage and me at 22:30. Melissa,thank you for your testimony and clarity. According to his definition of gossip, this sounds pretty much like a negative that employees can’t do anything about. You are so strong. I am so sorry that you were manipulated and belittled in your attempt to seek guidance and wisdom from those who were supposed to protect you and your family. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. https://julieroys.com/ramsey-good-ole-boy-evangelical-complex Gossip happens right under Dave’s nose precisely because of the environment he creates there. As believers it’s hard to understand why bad things happened to good people. Not because Ramsey Solutions is unique and special, but because it is unhealthy and violating. Melissa Hogan is the founder and past president of Project Alive and is a speaker on rare disease issues. Financial Experts Dave Ramsey and Chris Hogan bring another Message of HOPE for business owners and HR professionals across the country. I will be praying for you and your entire family. Thanks so much for your openness and transparency, Melissa. You dont want to employee someone that acts like that and still represents your company. Be well Melissa. This is an open and shut case against Ramsey Solutions and Chris if there is documented evidence of Chris’s admission to extra-marital affairs. Thank you Melissa. If I had known how much better it could be on the outside, I probably would have left sooner. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Praying for safety & comfort for you and your children (and that you all will still be able to have health coverage, especially your little one with extra needs). “You’re disloyal. What also comes to mind is pluralistic ignorance this “no gossip” policy can engender: https://youarenotsosmart.com/2020/07/30/yanss-180-the-psychology-behind-why-people-defend-the-norms-they-secretly-despise/. Not that I know of. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. My Statement re: Ramsey Solutions (1/15/21). The moral authority. 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